Carp Fishing

Fishing for Carp at Nine Oaks Angling Centre

Nineoaks in Summer youngster from Llangollen with a fine Common visiting angler lands excellent Carp from Main Pool

Introduction

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A little about Fishing at Nineoaks

 

A good days fishing?

visiting angler lands excellent Carp from Main Pool
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Layout and Aerial view of Nineoaks:-

A plan of the Fishery, its buildings and its lakes

Aerial view of Fishery

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Fly Fishing For Carp While Staying in first class Holiday Cottages or Static Caravans. What could be better?

Nineoaks has 3 Coarse lakes, with a good head of decent sized Carp in each lake. The Main lake of about 1 acre, an 1/2 acre House pool and a small Novices pool. There are Carp into the mid-20’s but we are not a “big carp” water; If it is big Carp that you are after
then this venue is probably not for you. However, if you prefer a good day’s fishing catching plenty of Carp around 5lb and over, and other coarse fish too, then this place would be hard to better. If you preference is fishing with heavy “big pit” gear and 10lb+ lines then this
venue does not fish well with this approach. In fact if you changed your approach to use lighter gear, then you will most likely catch more Carp! Thick lines, to a fish, represents anchor rope and big fish are not stupid. So lighter lines will land you more fish. Also, think about it, what does
a fish weigh in the water - very little as the water supports his weight? Your line, clutch and rod, are to control the pulling power of the fish’s fins and tail, not his weight. He only weighs when he’s out of the water not when he’s in it!
So, fishing here with light gear, small float, floating Bread, floating dog biscuit’s or other bait’s or fishing on the bottom can produce some spectacular sport.

Luncheon meat, paste, pellets, small boilies, dog biscuit’s (floating or sinking) and maggots are also good bait’s. Other excellent bait’s include cockles, muscles and prawns (not in jars of preservative, vinegar or any flavoured sauces), just fresh or frozen only. Plus, spiced bait’s including luncheon meat with turmeric or curry powder fished on the bottom or ledger style are tremendous. Late summer, fish with black slugs as bait!

Some of our regulars can produce unbelievable days fishing, one who fishes with fresh sausage in the margins, a poor day for him would be 18 Carp caught within 12” of the bank! Another, fishes only surface fishing with bread; his best day was that in 1 circuit of the Main Lake, in the early morning he caught 36 Carp, with Most being doubles! This is awesome fishing anywhere. Other anglers use fly-rod, fly line and leader with a bait-banded dog biscuit for some fantastic sport of the surface. Check here for a little more on fly fishing for Carp.
Whilst we have Carp into the mid-20’s we don’t claim to be a “big carp” water. What we have is excellent Carp fishing venue with the average Carp being around 5-6lb. We have all varieties of Carp - Fully scaled Mirrors, Mirrors, Commons, Koi, Koi hybrids, Mirror & Common Ghosties plus Grass Carp. The anglers that do well all use light tackle, not big heavy hooks or heavy line like “anchor rope”, a medium weight size 10, 6-8lb main line and the clutch set properly on their reel. Not sure how to set your clutch, ask Bill and he will show you?

We don’t recommend using heavy weight rods of 2 1/4lb test curve and above, however it is your choice. For the best fishing with the “adrenaline rush” feeling when your rod bends like you never knew it could; use a quality match rod, light tackle and your clutch set and just wait for some spectacular action; That’s good fishing!

In 2006, in an article in the fishing magazine “Improve your Coarse Fishing” on surface fishing for Carp, Nineoaks was chosen as one of the best 6 fisheries in England and Wales. No mean achievement for a “small fishery”? If you like the adrenaline “buzz” of hard fighting fish where even the smaller fish think they are bigger, then Nineoaks is definitely worth a try?

At Nineoaks, the best methods are the simple ones. Those anglers that come here with heavy, big pit gear rarely catch many Carp. We say that big Carp don’t become big by being stupid, they become big by being canny. They know they’re your quarry, what and why you’re there, and so you will have to “out smart” them. Fishing with a light rod (for maximum experience, an adrenaline rush, and fun), a maximum of 8lb bs line, 6lb or thereabouts is best. Early mornings, in the afternoons and evenings surface fish with bread, dog biscuit’s etc. Soft hookable, floating dog biscuit’s like Baker’s Beef or Chicken or bait banded dog biscuit’s like Chum Mixer, size 10 hook with a Fly rod, Fly line and leader, it should be really good. We think it you will find it the most fun, fully fressed, standing up that you’ve ever had! Try ledger fishing a dog biscuit as a “pop-up” which is an excellent bait and method. Other good bait’s include sweetcorn, luncheon meat, paste, beef tongue (in tins), fresh or frozen cockles, muscles or prawn in the margins (not those in preservatives) , Worm and Maggots will catch plenty of good Roach and Bream. Most anglers fish the margins, and quite a few regulars stalk the Carp throughout the day.

Sample Photos

Paul Horobin with his 12.5lb Common Carp caught on the 1st January Gary from South Wales with a lovely 24lb Mirror caught on a large piece of Luncheon meat and a borrowed rod! A Common Carp of 16lb from the Main Pool

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A little about fishing here

The stalkers are encouraged to be considerate and courteous to other anglers. One angler known as sausage man fishes the margins using a float road, pole float and fresh sausage as bait. The takes are extremely fast, so he holds the rod at all times. He misses many but he catches lots and many around 8-10lb about 12” from the bank.
The better anglers do not use pods and snooze, they have the rod close by at all times. I would recommend having the handle of your rod resting on the edge of your seat next to your thigh. That way when a fish bites the rod is immediately to hand, no stretching to a pod or down to the ground. By the time it takes to stretch out the fish will have had your bait and spat the hook out. Remember, a fishes reaction time is 10 times faster than yours. By the time you’ve spotted your float, indicator or what ever move, the Carp has had the hook and bait in his mouth, stripped it, found the hook and spat it out, and you’ve thought “oh, I’ve got a bite”! So, you have to be quick, no lazy fishing here. Notice I haven’t mentioned boilies, not many angler’s fish them and so they’re not really recognised as food. They do catch but not as often as the other bait’s. Oh, and don’t use big, heavy hooks like the raptor etc. bog standard, 10, 12’s and 14’s are about right for all the fish here, even the small Roach will take a bait on a size 10! As we’re not heavily match fished they’re not particularly hook shy.

What will change your catch rate is the presentation of your bait, no long tails from your knots. I’ve always found that the grinner knot presents the bait superbly, is a strong, small and neat knot. If you don’t know how to tie it ask me and it would be a pleasure to show you how I tie grinner knots the easy way, my way. Usually when angler’s are not catching it is usually they’re knots and how they tie them that are letting them down. Their hooks are not “in-line” but sit at an angle to the line, so when they strike instead of the hook pulling in to the fish it pulls out, away from the fish. With a grinner knot the hook is in-line with the line and so moves accordingly. Once I’ve tied a grinner knot for an angler, they usually catch before I walked 10 yards away! Presentation is everything!

During the summer months the best times are definitely early morning and from 4pm (when the dinner bell rings) and the Carp go on the feed and surface fishing is excellent. Good bait’s all year round are Sweetcorn and luncheon meat; Dog biscuit’s and float fished bread morning and evenings. Maggots while being an excellent bait will generally provide the Roach and non-carp species. Method mixes and vitalin with 2 or 3 sweetcorn can provide some awesome sport with well over 100lb of Carp being caught. Dog food, Cat food and tinned beef tongue regularly produce some super fishing. However, we do discourage the use of boilies and excessive amounts of ground bait going in.
Ledgering and method fishing can be very good and light float fishing spectacular but as already mentioned don’t use “big pit” tactics or thick line. Use 5-6lb line and #10 hooks (which will be straightened). Using line of 8lb breaking strain and over will definitely reduce your catch rate, so fish light with reasonable hooks (not 6+) and catch plenty of fish!

Good bait’s are bread and dog biscuits(both on the surface), sweetcorn, maggots, chick peas and cooked mussels or prawns, BUT NOT those in jars or tins of pickle, vinegar, flavourings or various sauces! Just plain, unflavoured fresh or frozen mussels. If you’re not sure how to put them on the hook, see Bill (owner) and it will be a pleasure for him to show you.

During the summer months the best times are definitely early morning and from late afternoon (4pm which is when their dinner bell rings) and the Carp will be on the lookout for food. They love bread off the surface and other surface baits too. Maggots while being an excellent bait will also provide Roach and non-carp species too. Method mixes fished with a preferred bait will provide some terrific sport. Dog food, Cat food
and tinned "beef tongue" or the likes of Coshida Trout & Salmon Cat Food should produce some good fishing.

When it’s wet, especially late summer through the autumn, when there are plenty of the small black slugs - a terrific bait and free too! Also, Campbell’s meat balls in tomato sauce, almond flavoured bait’s such as chick peas - fantastic..

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A little about the Lakes

Main has an average depth of 4-5ft. There are plenty of trees, bushes and bays all around the lake that provide lots of features to fish in to and under. A good variety of Carp of all sizes with the biggest going into the mid-20’s. Main also has some excellent Roach fishing, skimmers, Tench and Grass carp up to 14lb. Bream are reputed to be in to double figures with a large black specimen infrequently caught. Mainly Bream of around 3/4-1lb mark are caught on sweetcorn.

House is about 10ft deep in the middle with the margins being about 4ft deep. Plenty of features and trees/bushes on 3 sides and a large lilly bed. House. like Main, has a good head of Carp plus Bream, excellent Roach, Tench and a couple of Grass Carp up to 10lb. Carp here go up to 18lb with an average of about 4lb. With it’s good depth, fishing on the bottom away from the banks generally with sweetcorn, good number
of decent Bream are caught. Mainly around the 1-1 1/2lb mark. With a few bigger specimens and plenty of smaller ones to keep you busy.

Novices is between 6 and 8ft deep in the middle. Some tree cover and deep margins. Carp up to 4lb with plenty of 1/2lb’ers and good Roach to keep the novice, beginner or expert angler busy all day. there are a small number of skimmer Bream in this pool. To one side of the Lake there is a thick hedge providing plenty of cover when it’s windy. Don't get hung up on the name "novices" you will have a good day's coarse fishing with plenty of quality Roach, Carp and nice Bream. Do give it a try.

Gift vouchers are available that can be used for lessons, tackle and equipment, Birthdays or Christmas for redemption at the Fishery only.

Night fishing (by arrangement) can be truly spectacular, call to arrange a session.

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